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The purpose of this FAQ is to provide answers to questions commonly asked within the filking community. I've been a member of the filking community for about 25 years now as both a listener and a performer, and hope that the info provided here will be of use to new filkers as well as those curious about this whole "filk" thing. Many thanks to those who have contributed. Please note that my opinions may not reflect those of other filkers. This FAQ should *not* be regarded as being definitive, but only as a rough guide; I will be updating info over time. Wherever possible, I have also included links to other sources of related information. Unfortunately I've had to turn off commenting because of spammers but plan to reinstate commenting once I've switched over to Wordpress on the new server. Also see Kay Shapero's rec.music.filk Filk FAQ.- Debbie
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(moved) Where can I find filk conventions? This entry has moved to a new page.Posted by Debbie at 02:53 PM | Comments (0)Shouldn't all filkers attending a convention be obligated to attend open filk?
I've seen this issue crop up many times at filk conventions over the years. I've been on both ends of the situation...as the filker vainly hoping to see Grizelda appear, and Grizelda in the private room filk. I can see valid points on both sides. Cautions for those who think Grizelda is an elitist filk snob
If she's paying her way, however, that's a different story. She is under no obligation to attend the open filks if she would rather hang out with her friends in a hotel room. Remember that Grizelda may have paid a hefty airfare or driven for hours specifically to hang out with these friends. I can sympathize with the disappointment factor, of course...this has happened to me before as well, waiting all night for a certain filker to show up, but he/she never did. As for friendships...this is an issue that really pushes my buttons. It is -impossible- for everyone to be equally good friends with everyone else. Certain people are drawn more closely together because of a wide variety reasons, from geography to similar musical tastes to outlooks on life to simple circumstance. Sometimes these friends only see each other at filk conventions, which makes it natural for them to want to spend extra time in an environment where they can have a real conversation. Sometimes the friendship is also a musical one (often likely, considering the circumstances :-)). Unfortunately some people interpret this as talented performers wanting only to play with other talented performers, snubbing everyone else. What's sad about this is that this kind of attitude creates a vicious circle. Suppose Grizelda hears that the angry fan has been spreading rumours about her being an EFS (Elitist Filk Snob). Grizelda will be even less motivated to satisfy the angry fan. Who on earth wants to be bullied into doing something they normally enjoy doing voluntarily? In fact, Grizelda may herself become more and more disillusioned with the filking community and eventually withdraw from filking completely. After reading this article, one filker from the Dandelion Report message boards suggested another reason why subgroups of filkers might congregate: "An excellent and tactful essay on filk elitism. An additional comment might be that the longer you hang around filking, the more people you know and the harder it is to take the time from catching up with old friends to meet new ones. It is noticeable that the 'clumps' of friends who hang around together are often people who entered filking around the same time. And I think it happens more now because the filk community has grown so much." Cautions for Grizelda-types
If you're not a guest, then your time is your own. You have the right to spend the entire convention in a private room filk, if you choose. But if you do, then you risk missing out on the fun and bonding in open filk as well as performances you may have really enjoyed. Plus, remember that the filking community is very much "give and take" in nature. People will notice if you prefer to spend all your time with your close pals, and no time in the open filks. Perhaps you don't care, and that's fine, too. But be aware of the consequences. You should also think hard about the contributions of the filk community to your own personal situation, the people who planned the convention, who possibly helped you meet the filker friends you have now, who encouraged and supported you when you were a newbie filker and didn't know anyone, and those who bought your recordings and attended your concerts. Is there any way you can "give back" to the community? I'm not saying you need to spend every waking moment serving the community, but would it hurt to spend some of your time in the open filk, listening to others as well as sharing your own music, encouraging newcomers? Who knows...you might end up having so much fun that you won't want to leave. :-) Final commentsAnd finally, a word about talent attracting talent. Apart from the context of friendships, talent does tend to attract talent to some extent. A chess player with 20 years' experience is likely to get more satisfaction out of playing with an opponent of a similar skill level. This -doesn't- mean that the chess player dislikes playing those with less experience, or consider them less "worthy" of his or her company. It also doesn't mean that the experienced chess player doesn't get a different kind of satisfaction out of playing with a new or less experienced chess player, especially if there is some other bond between them. Also, similar musical tastes attract each other. I'll use Urban Tapestry as an example. All three of us have wildly different musical tastes, but we all get enormous satisfaction out of our musical partnership mainly because of the friendship between us. Each of us also has a different type of musical bond with other people. Allison and Paul Kwinn do great folky stuff together, for example. Jodi and Don Neill enjoy jazz improv. And I have my harp pals. :-) It doesn't mean that Paul and Don are snubbing me when they go off to do folky or jazz stuff with Allison and Jodi. As for private room filks...I -do- sometimes feel a twinge of jealousy when I hear about a great room filk that's going on to which I haven't been invited. But I never resent the participants (for all the reasons I've listed above), and focus on doing something proactive that I can get just as much enjoyment out of, like approaching someone I've always wanted to get to know better and having a coffee, finding a fun filk circle, or encouraging a new filker. And I always try, as do Allison and Jodi, to balance my personal time at a convention between private and public gatherings. I still get accused of being an EFS sometimes anyway (sometimes just for attending Open Filk Circle #1 instead of Open Filk Circle #2), but I'm realizing (especially after my experience with Inkspot) that it's impossible to please everyone. So rather than trying -and failing- to keep everyone happy and ending up resentful and unhappy myself, I just focus on having a good time at the convention. Since having a good time usually involves spending time at the open filk, this has worked out pretty well. :-) Comments? Suggestions? Please post below. Posted by Debbie at 10:09 AM | Comments (0)How can I have a successful chaos circle?
Learn how to take your turn.Sounds like a rule that a parent might give a child, but it's an important factor in making a successful filk circle. Learn how to listen.When you're in a filk circle, are you constantly flipping through your music book, looking for the perfect follower? Are you in a state of constant tension, waiting for the right moment to jump in with your song? If so, you're missing out on one of the best things about filk circles. Successful filk circles are very much give-and-take, people sharing their music with one another and enjoying other people's music. Basically, just give other performers and listeners the same courtesy that you would hope to have yourself. Be aware of other filkers who want to perform.One of the most important factors contributing to a great chaos circle is the chemistry between its members. Instead of just focussing on when you can jump in with your music, take a look around the circle and see how other people are enjoying themselves as well as being aware of who is obviously hoping to perform soon. Also see How do I get a turn to sing in an open filk circle?. Obviously, this list is unfinished? What other suggestions do you have? Please post them below. Posted by Debbie at 10:18 AM | Comments (1)How can we all benefit from LISTENING instead of always waiting to perform? See Bill Sutton's thoughts on the topic. Comments? Suggestions? Please post below. Posted by Debbie at 04:50 PM | Comments (0)How can I use the audience to help improve my performance? See Bill Sutton's thoughts on the topic. Comments? Suggestions? Please post below. Posted by Debbie at 04:52 PM | Comments (0)Should you wait for a convention to ask you to do a concert? What's the proper etiquette for asking? Also see comments at the end of this page (and add your own!) as well as in this Dandelion Report Livejournal entry. In general, concom-types seem to be open to filkers asking for concerts as long as you do so well in advance, politely, and without special demands. DON'T take it personally if you're turned down. And above all, do remember that filking isn't about concerts. I loved Brenda Sutton's comment: "It's not supposed to be about the concerts and who has them. Filking is supposed to be about the joy of creating music with your friends. What I've noticed over all these mumbledy-mumble years is that, the folks who are really enjoying themselves, and who are really helping others to enjoy themselves as well, don't need concerts to have a good time... but they are the ones to eventually get concerts. Hmmmm. Hmmmmmm." ========================================= From Mary Bertke (re: OVFF programming): "Ask for a concert the year before. Don't wait until only three months before the concert to ask. I may make my schedule before other people, but due to Ren Faire, I like to have my schedule for OVFF pretty solid by early August at the very latest (and to me, that's really pushing late - unless I'm really tempted to cram something in, I want scheduling done by the beginning of July). Give the person in charge of programming a CD - a burned-on-your-computer copy is just fine - with at least three songs of you performing to show them what you sound like. Remember - they may never have heard of you, or even if they've heard you, they may not remember due to con-induced sleep deprivation. Make sure appropriate contact information is included with the CD (Name, email, phone number, address). Important: once you've been offered a concert, be gracious and helpful. DO NOT: - Complain about the time slot you've been offered. While none of these will cause you to get the offer of a concert retracted, it will cause the coordinator to regret giving you a concert - a regret which will, most likely, be expressed to concoms of other conventions." ----------------------------------- From Judith Hayman (re: FKO programming): "I would agree with Mary on most everything she said but one... FKO doesn't have a programming head and ninety percent of our communication is filtered through the conchair. Even the person appointed to do the final coordination take suggestions to committee. Not all concoms work the same. Asking for a concert: Ask. Ask WELL ahead. Know that when you ask, you are really saying 'I'm coming to your con _anyway_. I am buying a membership. I am booking a hotel room and paying for transportation. Since I'm already doing that it would be cool to be able to play on stage'. Don't assume that the convention will comp your membership for a concert. Also don't assume that by asking you will get one. Our con awards only two or three concert spots outside the guests. It's good to start by asking for only fifteen minutes. Go back and look at Erica's comments on balancing style, gender mix, local/distant, old fave/new wave. Make sure you note added value: Debuting a new CD, taken on a new singing partner, batch of new material, learned a new instrument, baton twirling... (no, that's Christine Lavin) Above all, ask nicely, and take being declined gracefully. Advice: If you have to ask for assistance with an instrument (borrowing an instrument locally) or other equipment, stop, think twice and try not to do that. The concom is busy trying to accommodate the guests flakey requests and don't need yours. If you can't manage without help, ask for someone local who's NOT on concom who might be a resource. If that fails make your request at least several months ahead. The last thing a committee needs is a request for an electronic keyboard left in e-mail two days pre-con. It happened and we said "no". Don't be a prima donna. Word gets around. When concoms talk, they talk about who defaulted, who was unprepared, who was late, who was demanding. If you're asked to cut your set by a song, do it. Do it with a smile. If you're entertaining but hard to work with, you'll be tolerated. If you're entertaining and EASY to work with, you'll be in high demand. (I will not give an example of the former, but the owner of this list and her cohorts definitely fall into the latter category of both entertaining and blissfully easy to work with). Remember that your half-hour set INCLUDES the set up and intro. It's really a 25 min set. If the sound team is slow it's a 20 min set. And on the other side: I also believe that cons have responsibilities toward concerts. Set the damn schedule early. At least select those for concerts and let them know that they will have one, with a rough time range. It takes hard work to prepare a good concert set. Not all of us like to go on stage without a set list. Run as close to on time as you can (yes, actually that IS a comment about two of the filk cons). Being ready for a concert and having it delayed and delayed may mean the performer is so nervous s/he can't function. Or is hungry, overtired, upset, etc. Or gets their concert set cut short because some other event has to take place at a certain time. Some performers deal with this, many don't. If possible offer comps for concerts. FKO doesn't because we simply cannot afford it, being smaller." ----------------------------------- From Erica Neely (re: UK filk programming): "Okay, I've done concom-y things for 2 UK filkcons, so I'll say a few things here. Do you prefer filkers to wait to be invited? Oh good god, no. I don't know who everyone is and I certainly don't remember everyone I *do* know at any given time. It's good to ask. You shouldn't wait to be invited. (Having said that, gentle nudging of your shy friends or mentioning to someone in programming 'have you heard X?' isn't bad either if it's low-key. Sometimes people need a little encouragement to do a concert. But it's much better if you try to encourage the people to volunteer rather than expect that programming people will be omniscient.) What's the right way and wrong way to ask for a concert? Ask politely and, if turned down, be gracious in accepting it. If you've done a lot of concerts at cons recently, realize that you may not get a spot at the con; most concoms strive for variety. This holds true of your 'local' con as well; you aren't entitled to a spot just because you're nearby. So, for instance, I've told the last few east coast cons that I'd love to do a spot if there's space, but I'm cool with not doing it as well, if they have other people they want to showcase; I've done a lot of concerts at east coast cons and I don't mind at all not getting one. Being easy-going is definitely a good thing. Also, try not to take it too personally if you don't get a slot. You may be the best thing to come out of filk since Leslie Fish, but if you left it too late or if they're trying to balance certain criteria (gender mix, parody/serious mix, whatever), you may just not fit in this year. Being nice about the refusal makes it more likely that you'll get in next time. I'm actually going to make a slight break with some of the previous comments and say that there's nothing wrong with indicating some general constraints on when you'd like a set - for instance, if you have small children and can't do much late-night stuff or if (like I used to be) you have stagefright so badly you really would prefer not to be directly after a meal because you won't be able to eat if you are...just be aware that a) you may not get your preference, b) that makes it somewhat less likely to get a spot, since there are fewer spots that you would fit in to, and c) again, be nice about asking. You are *requesting* accomodation. You should not be demanding it. And you should definitely request it in advance, preferably with an explanation as to why; the programming person will be much more likely to be able (and willing) to help you if she has prior notice (and a good reason!) than if it's last-minute. Any other advice? This isn't exactly advice, but I'll add it anyway. I have no idea what the periodicity of concerts at major American filkcons is. That is to say, if you've had a concert at OVFF or FKO or Consonance or whatever, I don't know how long should you wait before asking for another. I have performed at OVFF and FKO and I haven't asked to perform at either of those cons again because I have no idea how long I should wait before doing so. (Other than, in my book, longer than it's been so far. *grin*) There is definitely an art to making clear that you'd love to perform but won't be huffy if you don't get to and aren't trying to filkhog. I'd love to know what the committees for the cons think about this issue - and also how they find people for, say, performer's circles and other events that have multiple people sharing a spot (who aren't a rehearsed group like Urban Tapestry.) Umm, I guess that wasn't a helpful answer, just a request for more info. Sorry!" ----------------------------------- From Lissa Allcock (re: UK filk programming): "For UK filk cons we usually put a call out in our first PR telling people to come sign up for concerts. Very occasionally we might ask people to do a concert (or ask them if they'd like to do one) but most of our spots are filled by volunteers. Then how long they get depends on how many volunteers we get. At 16 Tones we had several shocked people who found out a bit late in the day that they'd got an hour when they were expecting to get half an hour, but everyone coped heroically. I usually prefer to give people an hour if possible, but it depends on how much material they have (or are confident of). When asking for a concert it helps to give an idea of how much time you want and what level of tech you need, how many people are in your group if you are a group etc, but that can be sorted out closer to the time too." ----------------------------------- From Rob Wynne (re: GAfilk programming): "Gafilk is a bit of an odd duck in this regard, because aside from the Guest concerts and the banquet, we only do *one* concert every year, and it is chosen by the concom from the attendees. So there really aren't any concert slots to ask for. As for a good way to ask for them, my approach has always been the following: 'Just wanted you to know that I'm going to be attending $CON, and if there's anything I can do to help out with programming (concert, panels, etc), let me know.' Which doesn't pressure them to give you a 'yes or no' answer, or make them feel like the only reason you're coming is to try and get an audience from them. but that's just my own personal opinion." ----------------------------------- From Alan Thiesen (re: Consonance programming): "Filker question: 'How do I go about getting a concert at a convention?' Do you prefer filkers to wait to be invited? What's the right way and wrong way to ask for a concert? If we turn you down, that doesn't mean we don't think you would put on a good show. There isn't time to give concerts to all or even most of the worthy performers. Sometimes we have to make arbitrary decisions, and sometimes we make mistakes, but we do the best we can." ---------------------------------- From Lori Coulson (re: OVFF programming): "OVFF tries to get filkers that aren't often heard in the Midwest and at least one 'new' filker. Because of the demand for concert slots, the concom often debates who is to be offered one. We like to be told if a filker is planning on attending and is interested in a concert slot, with this caveat: Don't wait until 2-3 months before the con to tell us you're available. By that point in time our schedule is usually set. [1] The right way to ask for a concert? Be polite, and do it as soon as you know you'll be attending the con. Offer to be a back-up should an already scheduled filker be detained. The wrong way? Telling one or more of the concom that we *have* to give you a concert slot. (And yes, this has happened.) In order to avoid the appearance of favoritism[2], OVFF has a rule that we do not give a filker or filk group a concert slot in consecutive years. Other advice? Please remember that we have only 6 concert slots. Out of these six, there's one for the GoH, one for the Toastmaster/mistress, and one for the Interfilker, leaving only 3 slots for our Programming person to fill. [1] Many of the OVFF concom participate in or attend RenFaires, Pennsic or Worldcon -- since this eats up a great chunk of time in August and September, we try to have our schedule locked in before the end of July. [2] Would you believe me if I said we didn't have favorites? Didn't think so. Lori Coulson ----------------------------------- From Mike Richards (re: UK filk programming): "The conventions I've been involved with, I've generally waited for someone to ask us for a concert slot. Some groups get slots tentatively booked in (eg the n'Early Music Consort) in advance of them asking, but they still have to ask. In my experience it's rare, though not completely unknown, for specific non-Guests to be asked if they want to do a slot. So: no, I don't prefer filkers to wait to be invited, I'd *MUCH* rather they came forward and asked me The right way to ask for a concert: something like, 'I was wondering if it would be possible for me to have a slot at The wrong way would be someone telling me they were going to do a concert, OK? Advice. Hmm. I've still not been to a con in the US or Canada (one day, one day...) so I can only really speak about the UK ones. 1. If you aren't used to playing in front of other performers, do an item in the sign-up "open concert" a few times first; it's different being up on stage than in a circle. 2. Ask the concom nicely, and don't be downhearted if their program is full or you get given a shorter set. Be as flexible about timing as you can. 3. Plan your set. Time it. Include some patter and applause time. Include time for stage set-up and tear down. That's how long you need. For novices, it's worth talking to more experienced performers for some of the tricks. 4. Let the tech crew (if any) know well in advance what you'll need. Don't change it at the last minute if you can help it. 5. Don't go for every year unless people are asking you to do so or the program is relatively quiet. The UK cons have packed programmes so a lot of people do a slot every few years. 6. Don't be afraid to try. You don't have to have been singing in circles for 20 years before you can do a concert slot!" ----------------------------------- From Lee Gold: "I think filkers should write to say they expect to be at the convention and would like to help out. They might go so far as to mention what sort of songs they could sing if given a concert. From then on, it should be up to the concom. The staffer should feel free to ask if the would-be concert singer is interested in a) staying around for other concerts that day b) attending open circles that day Consideration should be given to singers who'll be involved in other parts of the filk program. Concert time should be given well in advance so the singer can prepare the material. It should not include set up and take down time, which should be budgeted separately. Concerts should not be scheduled opposite each other. Concerts should not run so long that people on a normal sleep schedule (i.e. those who go to bed by midnight) can only attend an hour or less of circles. (You know if your concert schedule is apt to slip 5-10 minutes or 2-3 hours, and should use the likely time that circles will start, not the scheduled time in evaluating the above.) I advocate scheduling a singing of 'Banned from Argo' and any other songs that many people in the region wish to avoid while a minority very much wants to hear. Theme Circles need at least two people willing to anchor them, and this is a good spot for people not up to attracting a signifiant concert audience." ----------------------------------- From Chris Croughton: "Depends on the con. At British and German filkcons, you ask for a spot (having ascertained what sort of lengths are being offered), in whatever reasonably polite form you like and providing as much relevant information as you can. Something like: Hi, I'm Or fill in the form in the PRs. It helps if they are flexible on time, and if they aren't known possibly something about the type of music they do (or poetry/pietry or whatever) can help to place them somewhere sensible. Don't demand a concert slot, or whine. That will put people off. If you had a spot last year, in general don't bother asking this year (there are exceptions for groups who don't get any other opportunity to perform together, and if you want to volunteer with a statement like "if you happen to need something to fill a spot, I'm willing" it can be useful especially if you can fill in with very little notice) However, I gather there are some cons which invite all of the performers. I don't go to those..." ------------------------------------ From Eric Gerds: "I am so glad that I no longer chairman of Con-Chord just for this reason. Scheduling the concerts was always a headache and was the total no win situation because it was impossible to keep everyone happy. The philosophy we had was that while song circles were important for filking we had monthly house filks that did that. The Convention gave us the opportunity to showcase people from out of town and outstanding locals and to give them an opportunity to shine. How to get a concert? 1) Make sure that the convention you are going to does have a concert and filking to start with. 2) Find out who is in charge of the concerts and contact them well in advance of event to let them know that you are available to perform if there is an open concert slot. 3)Do not get angry if you do not get a concert slot. It's not personal, there is a limited amount of time and there are normally way too many people to fill those slots. 4) Even if you don't have a concert, perform in the song circles and do the one-shots. Let people see that you should have concert next time. How to have a good concert and/or how to be invited back next time for a concert. 1) Practice, practice, practice - No kidding: know your songs! 2) Choose your martial carefully. A good mix of your new and best martial will get the best response. 3)Know how long it takes to perform your songs. Have enough songs to cover the performance and a few back up in case you are given extra time. Also know which songs you can cut in case there is less time. 4)When planning your performance include time to get on and off stage and time for you to talk between songs. Keep the introductions of your songs short as possible.* 5) Show up early for you performance. Don't make people run around looking for you. *The worst offender of this happened many years ago when a big name filker started off their concert telling a 15 minute story and gave a about 5 minutes of introduction for each songs. Then complain when we said that that they had run out of time. The filker was offended at us saying that they had not finished all the songs that they had planned." -------- Posted by Debbie at 01:02 PM | Comments (0)How do I get a turn to sing during an open filk? SCENARIO: Grizelda is a filker who sings a capella and tends to be shy. She is sitting in a fairly large open chaos filk circle and after listening for a while, wants to perform her song. However, she has no idea how to signal that she wants to do a song because every time someone's song ends, another filker leaps right in. Grizelda has no obvious instrument, so the other filkers tend to overlook her. Eventually she gets frustrated and leaves. The following has been culled from responses posted at the end of this page, rec.music.filk, and this Dandelion Report entry. What Grizelda could have done:- Sit where people can easily see her, like in the front row or inner circle. Even if she doesn't use lyrics, it might be good to have something resembling lyrics (even a sheet of paper) in her lap to clue people into the fact that she has something to perform. From Phil Parker: "The bottom line is, almost every filk circle will support you once you actually get over the threshold to get yourself noticed, but you have to start the process yourself." - When it's time for people to signal they want a turn to perform, Grizelda needs to find some way of getting attention. Suggestions from filkers included slapping a clipboard, strumming someone's guitar or having someone do it for her, beating on a drum or ringing bells, standing up, holding up lyrics, waving your hands. Make eye contact. Lee Gold suggested standing up and starting to sing (and sitting down after you get the circle's attention). - From "redaxe" on LJ: "If your song is a "follower", that is, it is related to the song currently being sung, wait until after the song and clearly and loudly state "I have a follower!" In most polite chaos circles, people will listen to you at that point. If there is a list of songs to be sung, speak up ANYWAY. Tell people you want to sing, and you can take your place in the list." - Ask a more assertive person for help in getting a turn. From Bill Roper: "Find one of the filkers who is singing regularly (but maybe not the one who is singing most often :) ). Whisper in their ear that you've got a funny/serious song on a particular topic and if they could find a place where it would seem to fit in and introduce you to the circle so you could sing it, you'd appreciate it. This usually works, although you may need to wait a bit until the mood comes around..." - From "vixyish" on LJ: "Grizelda can speak as soon as a song ends and say 'could I perform something?' Even if she speaks at the same time as someone is strumming their guitar, I've never *once* seen a circle that didn't respond to exactly that with either 'Sure, go ahead, and Bob will go after you!' or 'Sure; Bob's up right now, and then you'll be next after him.' I've literally never seen this fail. Filkers are marvelously welcoming and accommodating people, if only you SPEAK UP. Just say something." - If the circle is really big and aggressive, trying to get people's attention is going to be more hassle than it's worth. I've seen too many instances where half a dozen filkers start yelling "I HAVE A FOLLOWER!" the -instant- a performer finishes a song or recital, all trying to yell louder than the others. I generally leave to find a smaller circle when the atmosphere reaches this point, whether or not I'm in performance or listener mode. If Grizelda feels similarly, she might consider the following: - Look for a smaller filk circle, perhaps bardic. If there isn't one, then she should find some other filkers who would be willing to start one with her. From Kay Shapero: "In general when you see a lot of folks sitting around and only a handful singing, it's probably time to consider bardic or pokerchip." What the filk circle could have done:Keep an eye on the circle and help encourage those who seem shy or unable to break in. Without being obnoxious about it, you could ask, "I haven't heard you do anything yet. Do you have something you'd like to perform?" Sometimes just that encouragement will help a shy filker find the confidence to start. From Scott Snyder: "I believe that asking a shy person to stand up, shout out, or otherwise bring attention to themselves is basically saying 'The solution to being shy is: Don't be shy', which of course, is not a solution to the problem. The problem here is one of the circle itself, and what needs to change is not Grizelda's behaviour, but the behaviour of the group. Even a chaos circle should pay attention and notice when someone is possibly ready to sing, and offer that person a turn. Of course, the reality is - this rarely happens. Which is why Chaos works for small groups but breaks down in large groups. Moderated Chaos is the only situation where I've seen chaos actually work across all skill levels of performers, and would mean that situations like Grizelda's would be minimized. Now if ol' Griz is going to sit on the outside of the circle, with her head down, and not make any attempt to get the attention of the group - then another group is the answer for her. You have to be somewhere that you feel comfortable enough to stand up and be counted." From Dave Alway: "A filk circle is a community -- a social -- event. At root, courtesy and etiquette, the morays of any social event, are the keys to a "chaos" filk circle that welcomes new filkers." From Lee Gold: "I should note that this sound likes what I term Piranha Chaos, and is apt to frighten off shy guitarists too. The long-term solution is for shy people to form their own, smaller circles or for all the singers to be a bit less frenziedly competitive. Singers will feel more secure at doing this if the singers frantically struggling for the next song are queued up rather than having to compete just as frantically at the next moment of silence, and shy people may then ask to be put on the queue list." From Paul Bristow: "Ultimately, though, this problem really should be addressed at source: ALL performers, however good and however popular, should have the good grace to check around and see who else is waiting to sing, rather than just jumping in every time they happen to have a good follower. Be disciplined: Ration yourself." ALSO SEE: Faq entry: Any tips for shy or nervous filkers?
Notes: Sort of a first-person perspective on "Filksingers, I'm trapped in a Chaos Circle, I don't have a guitar to get attention, I'm trapped in a Chaos Circle, What makes a good Filk Guest of Honor? If you've been invited to be a Filk Guest of Honor, be sure to ask the convention committee about their expectations, read the contract (if there is one). But the truth is that what makes a good Filk Guest of Honor isn't always always spelled out in the contract. POLL: In your opinion, what makes a good Filk Guest of Honor? I'm interested in perspectives from both a convention attendee and someone on a convention committee (and heck, from past Filk Guests as well :-)). Please post other suggestions using the comment form at the bottom of this page. Also see the responses to this Dandelion Report LJ entry. Also see: How does a good concom work with a guest? Some responses so far: --- Lissa Allcock: "Be involved (beyond just your own performances - attend a reasonable selection of programming, bring something for the auction, take part in a workshop, hang out in the communal areas chatting with members, go out for dinner with a large group of fen, attend the late night circles - some or all of the above) Look after yourself (don't overdo it so that by Sunday morning you can't get out of bed you're so tired) Have a good time (people like to see that their guests are enjoying themselves) Don't stick only to the friends you already have (be open to the development of new friendships) Do not be a filk hog (even if people ask you to sing lots in the circles, try not to perform too often) Be prepared for whatever programme item(s) you are involved in (putting together your songlist for your concert while at the con gives a bad impression)" From Judith Hayman: "I suppose I can speak for FilKONtario in this. I'd add: let the con know your limitations asap. At FKO we tend to ask a GoH for a concert, a workshop and a theme filk (which they host). But we also specify attendance at some of programming, at the banquet, at some of open filk. If that's too much, we need to hear about it. Be flexible with travel plans and recognize that being a guest means you DO need to have extra time. We really want you there as early as is reasonable (I know bedlamhouse prefers guests in on Thursday) and we REALLy want you to stay until after the dead dog because that's the part the concom gets to relax and enjoy. Don't surprise us with an sudden request to bring someone. Tell us that early. Let us know if you're planning to bring 800 attendees on stage with you. The stage might not take it... We're organized at our con. We expect you to be too. Those decisions about what kind of room you want, when you expect to travel, who's doing your bio, do you have a photo, etc aren't that hard, but we kinda need them for our planning. Please understand that when we ask for something by a due date, we actually meant that. Progress report has a mailing date and don't even think of making us late with the program book." --- "There are two different ways a filk GoH can be very successful for a convention, and getting one person who can do both may be asking for too much, so the committee should try to decide what audience they're trying to reach with the filk guest and pick a guest that fits. One kind of guest is someone who is a big name draw, who will fill the ballroom for a concert and deliver a show that makes the general fans who came happy. If that is their job, the committee shouldn't be expecting them to also be on 6 panels and spend 12 hours in the open filk, and if the non-core-filk fans were happy with the concert, but the filk fans were disappointed that the guest wasn't there for them for the whole con, that's OK. The other kind of guest is a guest who's really there for the filkers. Their concert may really impress the core filk audience, but probably won't pull in people who are only somewhat interested in filk. This kind of a guest needs to be available for the core filkers for a large chunk of the convention. Being visible on panels is good, and participating comfortably and well in open filk is a must." (However, Lissa added to the above comment: "I'm not totally convinced by this. I don't think anyone in filk should consider their name so important that they only need to do their concert, but then I guess I was writing about being a GoH at a filkcon. Being a filk GoH at a more general con is a different beastie. I think my reason for feeling that is that it's because it's not specifically the filkers who are footing their bill at a general con, whereas it is at a filkcon and this makes a difference in relation to what the filkers in general have a right to expect of you. In a side note I point out that they only have the right to expect this of you if you are the GoH (or some permutation thereof). If you are merely a BNF but are paying your own way you are entirely entitled to do whatever the heck you want. It's your dime, it's your choice." Phil agreed: "Certainly, the guest who does a great concert but nothing else is a bad fit for a filkcon. The kind of convention where they would be a good fit is probably not a convention I'd really want to be at at all -- one that doesn't have much filk at all, but identifies a particular performer as someone who is popular enough with the not-really-filk-fans to be a draw.") --- "Try to find out from the concom what they want you to emphasize, along the lines of Phil's post. Attend the open filks, but (and this is my own opinion, concoms may vary) if you've got a lot of concert time don't sing too much in the open filk. Be there to listen and enjoy the other filkers at the convention. Unless the concom specifies that they want you to close down the filk (and cooperates by not giving you other work to do too early the next day), go to bed at a decent hour so you have plenty of energy (as oreouk said, take care of yourself). Don't assume that the con is paying for meals - confirm in advance. Spend as much of your non-programmed time as possible in public areas of the convention where you can meet and talk to attendees. Don't upstage other guests or concerts if possible. If something goes badly, discuss it with responsible concom members (if any) in private. If something goes well, mention it in public. Remember, you're a Guest and not a Ghod. The attention and handling many conventions give to a guest can go to your head, so be prepared to remember those days when the neighbors circulated petitions to get you thrown out for bad musicianship ... Be Prepared. If you leave things to the last minute you will give a performance that sounds like you left it until the last minute. On the other hand, don't overprepare or overstress. It is likely that the qualities you exhibit in your normal convention-going are the ones that got you the guest slot, so don't try to change yourself to be something you're not. Thank the concom. If you need to use some of your time at the convention for professional activites (as will be the case with many writers being guested to a town where a publisher or agent lives or works), this is acceptable if minimized and if planned with the concom as far in advance as possible." --- "- singing ability & repertoire songs not boring --- "You need to be a good entertainer. This isn't just musical performance skills; this means good patter, being upbeat, and leaving everyone feeling better when you left the room than when you walked in (or at worst, the same). You need to interact with everybody and be nice and gracious, no matter how much you want a 2000 lb weight to fall on a person. There are exceptions, such as the annoying heckler who makes your performance impossible (in which case, you're doing the rest of the room a service by cutting them down), or the filkhog who doesn't respond to gentle coaxing. If you're a draw, so much the better. Trust me when I tell you this IS a consideration when it comes to filk con planning. If, by inviting you, I have reason to believe folks will come and support you, so much the better. If the local folks are clamoring for you, that works as well. When you're at the con, be AT the con. DON'T hibernate in your room. DON'T have a private filk all night with a handfull of BNFs. DO be "out there." DO go to the filk circles and hang around. There are few things more annoying than a GOH who is "above" going to the filk circle. I've been to three cons where I can remember the GOH not being in the circle one of the nights and believe me, people noticed! In the circle, make everybody feel welcome, even if they're not making your kind of music. Filk is inclusive. In a room with 20 different people you're going to get 20 different tastes in music. Keeping someone from performing because they're not making your kind of music is downright rude. I can think of one performer I'd hesitate to nominate for Consonance GOH because they barged in and cut me off as I was about to sing in a circle (after patiently waiting my turn) years ago to shift the theme to THEIR kind of music (the theme of the circle was something else)." Posted by Debbie at 09:12 AM | Comments (5) | TrackBackHow does a good concom work with a guest? Related to the previous poll question about what makes a good Filk Guest: How does a good concom work with a guest? I'm especially interested in replies from concom members and those who have been Filk Guests in the past. Please post your suggestions using the comment form at the bottom of this page. Also see the responses to this Dandelion Report LJ entry. From Bill Sutton (GAFilk): "Communicate with your guest early and often. Be specific and explicit when offering the guestship as to: what the con is paying for, what the con is NOT paying for, what activities are expected from the guest, what activities are NOT expected, requested arrival and departure dates. Specify treatment of "guests of the guest" such as partner, children, groupies, etc. in terms of memberships, banquet tickets, room arrangements, and such like. If the guest is arriving by public transportation, provide someone from the concom to pick up at the particular terminal/airport/station. The only exception should be when the guest is spending time before or after the convention on his/her own - in this case, it is OK to leave transport to or from the hotel up to the guest, but be sure everyone understands the plan. Don't monopolize your guest! You brought the guest in to be available to attendees of the convention, not as private entertainment for the concom. The reason I like to ask guests to arrive Thursday and leave Monday is so the concom can spend some time with them before and after the convention. Don't Overprogram! A guest who is doing a concert should have at least an hour and a half (preferably more) of completely free time (time when it is understood he/she will be totally unavailable) prior to the concert. A good rule of thumb is no more than 2 hours of focal point programming (panel/concert where heavy contribution is expected) and no more than an additional 2 hours of "being there" programming (banquet, "meet the guests" session, etc.) per 12-hour convention day. Pro-rate for Friday and Sunday, of course, and remember that autograph sessions can be exhausting for some guests. Don't expect that your guest will automatically become a regular attendee of the convention in future years. Sometimes this happens, but frequently guests simply get invited too many places to add them all to their list. After all, you probably brought this guest in because your convention isn't a normal stop for him/her." Related FAQ: How can I get the most out of a filk convention? Let me say straight off that my answer to the question will not satisfy everyone. Everyone is unique, with their own expectations and likes/dislikes. I'm hoping, though, that at least some of this might be useful to at least some of you. :-) Please PLEASE do share your own advice and experience in the comments section! I'm going to updating the following to integrate some of the advice posted. Expect ups AND downs. Don't focus only on performing. Make a point of talking with at least three people you've never talked with before. Visit the con suite. Make a point of listening to at least three filkers you've never heard before. If you are working the convention, remember to also attend the convention. Schedule downtime. If you like someone's music, tell them so. Do good for someone. Get enough sleep. Get enough to eat. Drink lots of water. Get some exercise. Explore. Don't try to do ALL the programming. If you're not happy in a particular concert or circle or workshop, go ELSEWHERE. Focus on what positive things you did, not what you missed. If you have a crummy time anyway, move on. Life's too short, after all. :-) Please post your suggestions using the comment form at the bottom of this page. Also see the responses to this Dandelion Report LJ entry. Posted by Debbie at 08:56 AM | Comments (1) | TrackBackWhat are the differences between filk conventions? I've found filk conventions have different personalities, usually based on the people running the convention as well as regional differences. GAfilk, for example, is more of a "relaxacon" than other conventions, where the emphasis tends to be more on hanging out and socializing rather than intensive programming, and only a few concerts. OVFF usually has several tracks of programming at once, including workshops and many concerts throughout the weekend. I enjoy both types of conventions. :-) What do YOU like about different filk conventions? Please focus on positive rather than negative; this is NOT an invitation to list pet peeves and complaints. What appeals to one person about a particular convention may not appeal to someone else. I reserve the right to remove any post that I consider inflammatory or negative. The purpose of this FAQ answer is to help promote the best aspects of each convention as well as explain some of the regional differences between conventions. Please post your suggestions using the comment form at the bottom of this page. Also see the responses to this Dandelion Report LJ entry. Posted by Debbie at 04:30 PM | Comments (2) | TrackBack"I'm going to OVFF for the first time! Any tips?" Seanan McGuire posted a great OVFF Survival Guide in her Livejournal for those planning to attend the convention for the first time. Seanan was Toastmaster at OVFF in 2005. She has kindly given permission for me to reprint her advice below: -------------------------- A handy-dandy OVFF survival guide. It has come to my attention that there are a lot of people who read this journal who will be attending OVFF for the first time this year. Hello, and welcome! Since I love you all, and want you to have the best convention experience that you possibly can, I've prepared this handy-dandy OVFF survival guide. See? It's both handy and dandy, and that means it must be good! This guide will include tips on: Two-fers are sort of like one-shots, except you perform two songs in a row rather than just one. Posted by Debbie at 09:07 AM | Comments (0) |